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Poster: WillCo Date: Nov 4, 2011 11:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

There's an interesting article on dead.net by Blair Jackson about the Road Trips series:

http://www.dead.net/features/blair-jackson/blairs-golden-road-blog-sticking-road-trips?eml=dn/110311/text

I agreed with the Road Trips "compilation" concept, and liked the lure of the bonus disk for early buyers (didn't like the subscription idea though, which looks set to continue). Most of the releases were very welcome to me, and I always enjoyed Blair's sleeve notes.

Here's hoping that we'll all enjoy the Dave's Picks just as much

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

I liked the road trips series. A cool part of the series was you had no idea if the next release was going to be a full show or a comp. I have no problem with not having a full show especially if it isn't in the vault or maybe the music wasn't up to par.
Loved the bonus disc. Seems I listen to the bonus discs more than actual release on some of them. It gave me the incentive to order knowing I would have something thats not going to be availible for that long.
Really hate the subscription to much $$$$ to put up front without knowing. Plus one bonus disc for the subscription compared to one per release does not seem to be much of an incentive. When ordering from Dead.net I usually bought more than one release(one road trip one dicks pick). they are going to lose out on this by not having more releases availible especially if people put the money up front.

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Poster: reviewr Date: Nov 4, 2011 8:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

Interesting that he uses the words "our" and "us", and he defends pulling shows from Archive.org. I didn't know he was so much inside - seems to be a tool for selling things.

I generally like whole shows, but the compilation DP 12 (June '74) might be my favorite DP.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 4, 2011 9:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

Yes, that is interesting. There must be a substantial anti-archives contingent within the GD organization. Certainly that can't be the first time any insider has argued that having this much music available is actually a financial liability -- and I bet it's said about streaming and not just DLing.

A short-sighted argument, IMO; I've certainly bought more official releases since I found the archives than before. Ya hear more, ya want more. It's just another kind of viral marketing, to put 21st century concepts on it (though I hate those terms.) But obviously there is a group that thinks differently. Glad they haven't prevailed so far.

Interesting comments on that thread on Deadnet. I prefer whole shows but can certainly see the point of the "do we need another Mexicali?" argument. On the other hand, you can never have too many MAMUs ... :-)

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Nov 5, 2011 5:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

Another fact that confuses me is that Dick died in 1999, #15 being his last one. The last few picks #31-#36 did not come out till 2004. So it took 5 years for all the boards to get leached. Does anyone know when the boards actually made it to the archive? Seems like the timeline maybe a little off.
The real culprit may have to do more with technology and less with the archive. Can you say IPOD it was released in 2001. Consumer buying trends were changing less people were buying cds. The road trips series came out in 2007. I remember Dead.net used to allow digital downloads for sale wonder why that got dropped seems like a good way to keep dicks picks alive without paying some crazy amount of money for them. Amazon has some of them for download.


This post was modified by portmcgroin on 2011-11-05 12:52:33

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

I completely agree about the access here changing my spending habits. If i hadn't found this place back '05 it is unlikely that GDP would have ever seen a dime from me. However I do wonder if the good folks at GDP/Rhino would be a little more lenient about streaming shows at the archive that are commercially released if it wasn't so easy to steal the music from this site. I am sure they would be much more comfortable having people give shows a listen here if they could only listen here. It would be a nice marketing tool for them right? "Listen to this great show at archive.org and purchase a pristine copy from us."

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 7:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

600 versions of MAMU!? leave my dead ass there by the side of the road.

how about this idea from a user on dead.net:
"Does Rhino have a proposal for releasing all 600-odd versions of "Me And My Uncle?" It's a short song, so it should fit on about 15cds."

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 5, 2011 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

If you didn't bother with sports, you'd have time for all those nice MAMUs.

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Poster: WillCo Date: Nov 5, 2011 1:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

I heard somewhere that John Oswald is working on a folded version of 600 MAMUs, a la "Grayfolded".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHDrl5Pd_Bo&;feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL69740D1F0FE3D817

I do wish that he'd repeat that project with some other early GD material, e.g. Alligator, Caution, Viola Lee, Truckin'.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Nov 4, 2011 11:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Blair's farewell to Road Trips

First, I've always thought the subscription idea is bunk. I don't want or need every single release and refuse to sign up blind.

I too was a fan of the general Road Trips concept and am sorry to see it go. Although I still have my favorite individual shows, the older I get and the more limited my listening windows have become, the less I care about the fact that (for example) the "China>Rider" is from one night but the "Playin'" which follows it is from two nights later. Hell, one of my favorite official releases ever was the first disc of Fallout from the Phil Zone, and those songs weren't even all from the same YEAR (and, to Blair's point, there are some songs that just don't vary as much as others: whether it's 1974, '84, or '94, "Mexicali Blues" is "Mexicali Blues", and I've purchased it enough times).

Don't get me wrong- I'm not saying context isn't important at all. I still enjoy debating the merits of one individual performance versus another, waving the banner for my favorite years, and so on as much as anyone. And at one time I was a whole show type of guy. But since I rarely get to listen to even my favorite shows uninterrupted these days, I no longer view breaking up shows as some sort of heresy.

Still, it's obvious the "whole shows now!" segment of the GD's music-buying fan base was either larger or louder (or both) than that of folks who think like me, so it looks like we'll be headed back in the other direction. So it comes, so it goes.